1. I grew up a Marxist. Raised in a middle class home. I am now a Tea party supporter that isn’t a Christian. I am a little tired of being told that I am a horrible person. The government should be limited, people should help each other but not rely or demand that the government take care of them. Oh there are so many things I would like to say, but I am not like that. I can’t go bashing people that I really don’t know.

    All I can say is that, good for those people, this is America and we have the right to say what we wish.

    • Carol Anne

      Oh yay! Political discussion. I love political discussion. *fans self* And here on my blog. Dare I dream?

      Phelan, I’ve read you for so many years and you’re the exact kind of person I’d think would not be a supporter of the tea party. My biggest problem with the tea party and conservative republicans is their religious intolerance. Both Huckabee and Perry have raised the point that Mitt Romney is not “Christian enough” to be president because he’s a Mormon and Evangelical and other denominations consider Mormonism to be a cult.

      I often wish I could have an honest conversation with conservatives who who want to prevent gay marriage and ask them, what’s it to you? The thing that worries me most is that the people who are crusading so hard to have government decide who can and cannot get married are not looking at the big picture or to the future. I know that the precedent has been set when it was decided that interracial were legal. It blows me mind that the government someone gets to decide who can and cannot marry. By setting this precedent we allow all sorts of interpretations. What if 50 years down the line a radical gets in office and decides that heterosexual couples can no longer marry. It’s arbitrary but not out of the realm of possibility. I want to know where in the Constitution government is given the absolute to decide who can and cannot get married.

      These are the things that keep me up at night about the tea party and their candidates.

      I’d love to know who you’re leaning toward voting for and what you think of the socially conservative aspect of the tea party. Please come back and continue the discussion. I love honest debate.

  2. But I am not anti-gay marriage. I am anti-government telling me that I have to do this or that, or accept this or that unless I want to be charged with a hate crime. I should be allowed to have my own opinions without fear of it being illegal. If people don’t like it, don’t listen to it. And I don’t believe in special treatment.

    I am not a neo-con Never have been. So I can’t help you there. I am a libertarian. I could care less what religion any one is as long as you aren’t in my front yard butchering my animals. I am so in love with Ron Paul. He has been misquoted so many times it’s ridiculous. ( I did not vote for Bush either times) He believes what I do, allow the States and the People to decided. Allow the private business owners to make there own decisions rather than so drowned in regulation and taxation. I am opening my own business, luckily my State is deregulated, so it is only the federal offices that I have to get through.

    I love my guns. I am pro-choice (though don’t think it should be used as a constant form of birth control (IMO) and I shouldn’t have to pay for it) I am pro-death penalty, I am a capitalist pig. I am anti-one payer health system (I pay cash for mine, no insurance) I am pro-religion although I am not personally. To each their own. I don’t think anyone should be allowed to force me to do anything I don’t want to. I see a need for moral laws, like murder and theft, but not laws that make raw milk illegal on a federal level.

    I like the Tea party, as many of my other librarian friends, and bikers do. We want to be allowed to make our own decisions, be allowed to use our money how we see fit. We are for limited government. Not all the tea party people are Rhinos. Fox news was actually right about something. But I am unable to give you that socially conservative debate that you seek. Tomorrow on my blog you might find it though.

    We believe that everyone can have the American dream if they are willing to work for it. We see many people my age thinking they are owed something just because they were born. My bedtime stories came out of Chairman Mao’s little red book, just like their’s but I chose a different path, and I chose to work hard for it all.

    • Carol Anne

      >>> laws that make raw milk illegal on a federal level. <<<

      I've read the blogs people wrote about this and the judge who said something to the effect of you can't drink the milk of your own cows and I can't even begin to wrap my head around the idea that anyone has the legal right to tell people they cannot eat/drink what they've grown/raised on their own farms. I have absolutely no words for it. It's like the mayor of my township saying to me (if I had a garden) you can't make tomato juice from the tomatoes you grew in your garden. *scratches head* It's so ridiculous it's almost too much to think about.

  3. I misread your last sentence about what my views of socially Conservatives are. Good on them. They hold true to their beliefs. I know many, and they are not violent. So I have nothing bad to say about them. They can be a bit annoying when you get them going. But really I could give a fig less. My home, my rules, my happiness. I won’t play with my girlfriend on your front porch if you don’t hump your wife on mine.

    • Carol Anne

      (if you hit escape while typing a reply the box closes and you lose everything) @##$%!!!

      *sigh* Now I don’t feel like retyping my first response.

      >>> My home, my rules, my happiness <<< But that's just it. It appears to me that the socially conservative folks don't agree with you on this position. As a woman both of child-bearing age and as a woman who almost died last year I fear the interference of a socially conservative government. Rick Santorum has said that he doesn't believe in any exceptions in terms of a woman's right to an abortion. He is also the politician who interfered in the Terry Schiavo case in 2005. I don't want to be a vegetable and I don't want to put my family through that sort of torture. It's frightening to think a politician could decide that my end of life decisions don't suit his/her religious beliefs and have them legislate accordingly.

      I'm of the firm belief that the 1 ruling party system is out of date. I think we learn the best lessons when we listen to those with whom with disagree and then take the best ideas of both sides and make them work. Life is not black and white and my opinions aren't always the right or best ones. I'd like for our leaders to understand that good leaders know that they are not always the most enlightened or smartest person in the room.

      Thank you for today's political debate. I hope we get to do it again some time. I enjoyed it.

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